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Denise ([staff profile] denise) wrote in [site community profile] dw_news2010-05-26 10:28 pm

Weekly update, 26 May

Good afternoon, Dreamwidthians! ...Okay, okay, it's evening where I am, and morning elsewhere in the world, and and and ... but you know what I mean.

This week's update is late because I was busy getting married! (Okay, not so busy -- it was just a simple courthouse ceremony. But still. [personal profile] sarah said that she doesn't work on days she gets married, and I happen to agree.) Then, as I was settling in to gather things for the update, something big happened. Like, huge. Big enough to blow away everything else I was going to talk about in the rest of this update.

Before I get to that, though, a quick hit: welcome to [personal profile] poulpette, who has had her first patches committed! (Two, to be exact.) Also, this month we're running a Clean Up The Small Stuff hackathon in an attempt to knock down our open bug count. So, if you've been considering getting involved, now would be a great time. (Come to the dark side. We have cookies.)

Still, all of this pales next to ...



The Update Page Redesign Mockup



Yes, that's right. [personal profile] fu has been working her fingers off to turn my crappy pencil sketches into an actual semi-usable mockup. This mockup doesn't work to actually post entries to your journal, and you can't use any of the draft entries/scheduled entries functions yet (since it's not yet finished!), but it will let you play with it and figure out what you love about it and what things you think can still be improved.

Before I link to it, though, we need some background.


The Motivations



The reason for this redesign is to make it possible -- and easy -- to have draft and scheduled entries in the future. This means that you'll be able to:

a). Work on multiple entries at once, save the entries you haven't finished yet, and keep them in your DW account instead of in a file on your computer somewhere.

b). Schedule finished entries for posting sometime in the future, so that you don't actually have to be in front of your account at a certain time in order to post an entry. For instance, if you're going on vacation, you'll be able to write a week's worth of entries ahead of time and they'll post right on schedule.

c). Set a particular entry to post at specified intervals (daily, weekly, monthly) so if you post the same text every week, you don't have to remember that it's Monday again. (Something I am clearly failing at, seeing as how the Monday update is on Wednesday this week!)

d). Temporarily "unpublish" entries back to draft status, instead of deleting them or setting them to Private, so that if you want to revise an entry after you post it, you can do so and still keep the same URL and privacy settings when the entry is republished.

We've also tried to improve on the general usability of the update page, group the metadata settings into logical categories, modernize the interface and add some useful tricks (better tag autocomplete, for instance, and the ability to hide certain metadata sections that you never use and have that choice remembered when you load the update page).


The Requests



When we asked you a while back what you wanted in the update page, and in the conversations we've been having with people about the topic since, the chief things that were mentioned were:

* Prominence of the icon selection, security, and date/time options.
* Good keyboard navigability.
* Better tagging options.
* The ability to hide unused or less-frequently-used options, but still have access to them if needed on an entry-by-entry basis.

The design that we came up with fits these criteria as much as we could. It borrows heavily from the Wordpress posting interface, because when we were looking around at all of the available options out there, the Wordpress one was the closest to what we wanted. It's far from being an exact clone, though, because on DW, the focus is entirely on different things.

Another major thing this redesign does: Because we have so many options for posting an entry, it can be totally overwhelming for new people, but everyone uses a different set of those options and therefore we can't get rid of any of them (or hide them, or put them behind another click for an 'advanced options' page) without annoying somebody. So, for all of the more advanced options, we went with a simple JS trick: the settings for the option won't show up until you select the option, thus saving space and simplifying the process for new people, but they aren't hidden behind a further click to avoid annoying the people who use them regularly.


The Anti-Requests



The major thing that we did even though a few people said we shouldn't: the design uses a two-column design, rather than a one-column design, even though some people said that they'd find a two-column version annoying. There are two reasons we went with this design rather than a one-column one:

1). Our usage data shows that under 1% of our users access the site at a screen resolution under 1024x768. At this resolution, the entry-typing area is still about 70% of the existing update page entry-typing area, and the two-column option allows us to make more of the metadata options visible on the first screenload.

2). A survey I did a while back about the order in which people write entries turned up that everyone does things slightly differently. We wanted to optimize the design for the most common workflow, except there wasn't really a most common workflow! Because of that, we needed to build a version that people could adapt to their own preferred workflow without too much doubling back, and a two-column option means that most of the common workflow items can be visible on the screen at the same time for people to select.

For those users who are accessing DW on a mobile device with a much smaller screen: We are, as part of an unrelated project, working on a redesign of our mobile site. (One of the Summer of Code projects is also an iPhone client.) This will make it easier for you to use the update page on a mobile screen. The design also degrades gracefully into a one-column version if the working screen space is small enough, so users on small devices and low resolutions will still have a large enough working space.

The design is also meant to degrade gracefully if Javascript is off.


A few notes



* The design should be fully keyboard-navigable and screenreader-friendly. We've checked it with the accessibility team, but if it isn't for you, that's a bug and we want to know about it!

* To collapse boxes, hit the arrow in the top left corner. To expand a box and make it larger -- to have more room to type in things like tags and "current mood/music/etc", click the more magnifying glass next to the text entry box.

* If your computer is older or slower, and you're having trouble with the Javascript used to create the various zoom effects, there's a "disable effects" link in the upper right hand corner of the page that will shut those off.

* To choose a custom time to display on the entry, select "Custom" for "Displayed Entry Time" under Date & Time. To schedule a post for the future, select "in the future" for "Scheduled Publishing Time" under Date & Time. A calendar will pop up for scheduling. Tabbing or clicking outside the calendar will dismiss it. (This is one of the things I'm most nervous about. We don't want to lose the ability to make the entry display a date that isn't "now", but we're going to be introducing the concept of "entry posted in the future at a time other than now", and I'm a little nervous that the distinction isn't clear enough. But more about that later.)

* The "Works in Progress" bin will show you draft posts and scheduled posts. Scheduled posts display with both absolute and relative time, and the recurring entry icon indicates that it's scheduled to be posted regularly and not just once. Under the Draft column, "draft" means that it's never been published, and "retracted" means that it was published once but then pulled back for more revision.

* To pick a custom security level (custom filter the entry), select "Custom" under the "Security Level" in the Publishing area. A series of checkboxes for your defined custom filters (or, in this case since it's a mockup, some sample custom filters) will show.

* Preview and Spellcheck are under the Other Actions box, which is collapsed by default as a demonstration of how the collapse-on-load will work -- it won't be collapsed by default the first time you load the new update page when it's live on the site.

* To save as a draft, you'd select "Draft" under "Publishing Status" (in Publishing), then the "Post Entry" button.


The Feedback



So, the purpose of showing you this mockup is to get your feedback now, before we release it on the userbase as a whole! This means that this is the part where I ask you guys what you love about the design and what you think could be better.

Your feedback is important to us, because we want you to be as comfortable as possible with the new design when we release it. It's really important for me to note, though, that the overall design won't be changing, because we chose it for very specific reasons. This means that feedback like "I hate the whole thing and you shouldn't change anything about the existing page" won't be helpful for us -- if you dislike a part of the redesign, tell us the specific pieces you don't like about it, and why, so we can see if there's another way of doing the same thing that will be more widely useful for people.

(Also, before anyone asks: Because this redesign is to allow more functionality, there also won't be any chance to opt out of the redesign and keep using the old update page. It's necessary for us to standardize on one design, especially since we're going to be making sweeping changes to the backend that you guys won't see but will require us to use the new update form to create posts.)

If you're stuck on the kind of feedback you want to give, here are some questions you might want to answer. (You don't have to answer them -- this is just a sample of the kind of things we want to hear!)

* Does your computer/browser display any elements of the page wrongly? (If it does: please let us know what browser (and browser version) and operating system, and what screen resolution, you're using.)

* Is there enough visual distinction to the "Works in progress" bin? If you don't think so, what do you think would improve it?

* Is the distinction between "timestamp on the entry", aka "displayed entry time", and "time the entry will be posted", aka "scheduled posting time", clear enough for you? If it isn't, what can you think of that might make it more instinctive?

* If you use assistive technology: Does this design work for you in it? Is there anything that annoys you about it? Is there anything that's actively hard to work with about it? If so, let us know, and let us know specifically what assistive tech you're using so we can try to reproduce.

* After trying it out a few times, is there anything about the workflow that seems off or wrong to you? Are there any little details of the process that you think will quickly get annoying?

* Is the process of saving a draft, instead of posting the entry directly to your journal, clear enough?

* And, finally, because [personal profile] fu worked her butt off on this and needs some positive feedback to focus on in the middle of all the critique: What're your favorite parts of the mockup?


The Mockup



So, after all that ... here's the link to the mockup!

Remember, this is only a demo. It will not post entries to your journal or save them as drafts, and it won't use your icons, your tags, or your custom filters.

There's a note on the page itself about what else it doesn't have, but to reiterate: the Rich Text Editor isn't integrated yet (since we're replacing it as part of a Summer of Code project), and neither is draft auto-save or functional preview/spellcheck. The links to the sample "draft" and "scheduled" posts don't work yet, either.

Try a few sample posts, bang around on it, see how it works, and let us know what could be better!

Without further ado ...

Create Entries Demo



EDIT (5/27/10, 1024 EDT):



Things that are coming up frequently in comments, that we will definitely look into changing/improving/etc, that are already on the list and don't need to be mentioned anymore:

* Moving the location of the 'tags' option -- nearly everyone who's commented would like that moved, and we'll play around with the best location.

* Tag autocomplete not working perfectly with mouse selection (typing 'ca' to get 'cake', selecting 'cake', and getting two tags of 'ca' and 'cake')

* Location of the spellcheck/preview buttons (please do note, though, that the box they're in right now would not be automatically collapsed when you load the page: the page will remember your last-used value) -- we'll play around and try to find a good solution. (We very much want to separate them, since a common complaint is that people hit post when they meant preview, but what we're hearing from you guys is that they're too separated.)

* The phrasing of the "Take out of normal date flow" box -- that was our best attempt to make the "date out of order" option clearer, since it's a source of much confusion, and we've apparently succeeded in making it worse!

* Requests for the ability to drag & reorder the modules -- I don't know if it'll be technically possible, but I'll have [personal profile] fu looking into how easy it would be!

Also, thank you guys so much for the thoughtful and incredibly helpful feedback and comments so far!

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[personal profile] katieastrophe 2010-05-27 10:26 am (UTC)(link)
When I went to the page, all the red option boxes were already expanded. Did I misread, or is that intended behaviour? I thought I'd understood that they would all be minimised and would open when a user selected them.
(Not that it matters to me, as I'm likely to use all boxes in every post anyway, but just throwing that out there.)

Additionally, the reason box for age restriction is pre-filled with my username. Would that be the behaviour on the page once it goes live, or would it be blank as it is now?

I'm a seasoned enough user to understand what "take out of normal date flow" means, but I'm not sure a newer user would get it; I think that needs either different wording, or a link to a FAQ so that it makes sense.

Works in progress bin looks fine to me. Perhaps "scheduled" and "draft posts" could do with a slightly larger heading though.

If it's possible, something that would be really neat: the ability for a browser to remember which option boxes you use/don't use, and expand them or not as necessary using a cookie or something.

The timestamp thing works just fine for me, as is the process of starting a draft.

It's all really awesomes, though! The layout is great, and it's a really simple thing, but I like the red background behind the options boxes, it makes it pop out a bit more and look less boring than the current update page looks :D

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[personal profile] such_heights 2010-05-27 10:29 am (UTC)(link)
This looks so awesome, and I love how much you've clearly thought about this. A couple of tag-related things:

using autocomplete is kind of annoying right now - if I type in 'c', then select 'cake', I also get c as a tag. Which means I may as well just type out the tag in the first place. Also, would it be possible to have a full drop down list option as well as autocomplete? I know I'd find that really helpful.

But omg drafts and scheduled posting. \o/ I'll be using that come Vividcon to post my new vids after they've aired at the con. Sweet!
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[personal profile] dzurlady 2010-05-27 10:38 am (UTC)(link)
Is there anyway way to fix tagging to remove that thing it does where you start to type a tag and it suggests one, and you select it, and then you are left with the complete tag and also a separate tag with the letters you typed before you selected a tag?
(Eg you go to type 'cake', and then when you have typed 'ca' it suggests 'cake', and then when you select 'cake' your tags now read 'ca' and also 'cake'.)


I am really excited about future posting!
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[personal profile] dancing_serpent 2010-05-27 10:56 am (UTC)(link)
Congratulations to the both of you!

The new update page looks good so far. The only things I don't like that much were already listed:

- tags grouped with "currents" and tag field too small. I don't use the currents, but I tag excessively, especially in my communities and newsletter. So much so that even the currently existing tag field is too small for my entries.

- I'd rather have the entry field on the right side. Maybe it's a thing of being right-handed, I don't know, but I'd rather have all the "fine-tuning" on the left side so I won't have to think about it once I've fixed it to my liking.
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[personal profile] yvi 2010-05-27 11:14 am (UTC)(link)
tags grouped with "currents" and tag field too small. I don't use the currents, but I tag excessively, especially in my communities and newsletter. So much so that even the currently existing tag field is too small for my entries.

Does the tag box not grow as you add tags for you? Or are you talking about something else with "too small"?

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[personal profile] green_knight 2010-05-27 10:59 am (UTC)(link)
Screen resolution != window width. I have my browser windows set to a length I can comfortably read text in - which is considerably narrower than my screen. This is so I can have more than one window open at the same time and see what's happening in the others.

Saying 'but most people these days have the technical ability to- violates the principles of accessbility and caters for the most cutting-edge and most prosperous segment of your user base - it leaves behind the people who have older computers, rely on second hand and public access machines. Yes, you cannot support them indefinitely, but you need to make a good case for changes. </rant>

That said, I think the layout works well because the block on the right simply jumps down when you narrow the window too much, so everybody can use it as they prefer - wide screen or scroll down. As a 7" netbook user I thank you.

Otherwise, I love it - it's clear, it's easy to use. I'd like to be able to configure it so I can hide individual things (I *never* use the location), and I can see problems with the 'tags' field being too narrow for many users. (Also, are there good reasons to change the wording for permissions? And 'custom' is missing).
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[personal profile] sophie 2010-05-27 12:18 pm (UTC)(link)
(Also, are there good reasons to change the wording for permissions? And 'custom' is missing).


It sounds like you're confusing the commenting permissions and the security level; the 'Permissions' field in the 'Comments' box is for saying who can make comments on the entry. The 'custom' value is part of the Security Level, which is further down the page in the white section between the top part and the posting button.

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[personal profile] nishatalitha 2010-05-27 11:04 am (UTC)(link)
Congratulations on the wedding! Fantastic.

I'm seconding (or thirding or whatever) the person(s) who asked if the columns could be switched around, so the text is on the right. I kept trying to drag and drop them over, but that didn't work so well. They looked like they should drag and drop okay, a bit like www.stuff.co.nz allows you to rearrange the order on the main page if you want, only better.

Other than that, the new design looks pretty cool.
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[personal profile] sally_maria 2010-05-27 11:08 am (UTC)(link)
I've been looking forward to the opportunity to save draft posts - and I like the vast majority of what you've done with the new layout.

Another request to take the tags out of the currents box,though I suspect you've got that message by now. :-)

I must admit I'm another one who'd love to be able to move the different modules around - and to make Publishing and Date and Time to be moveable, collapsible modules as well. I just don't need the change date functions enough to want to devote that much screen estate to them, but I can live with it.

The entry box could just be as long as the side bar, perhaps, to make everything look tidy.

The menu selection to save a Draft isn't very obvious, I don't think. I'd much rather have a Save Draft as well as a Post Button.

Thank you again for your work on this, and I look forward to to using the new version.
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[personal profile] sugar 2010-05-27 11:15 am (UTC)(link)
Congrats on the getting married!!!

Regarding this design, AMAZING work. OMG, I love it! Especially the tag space! I love the auto-complete and the clickable X for easy management!

My only suggestions are to place the preview button next to the post button, because it just makes more sense to me, as it's something I use regularly and always right before posting. And then also, to make the Work in Progress section a bit more eye-catching, because I had to go looking for it after remembering it was supposed to be there somewhere. Maybe there's too much whitespace there for me, and a split between drafts and retracteds would be better?

Thanks for your hard work on this, guys! It's beautiful :)
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[personal profile] ghoti 2010-05-27 11:19 am (UTC)(link)
argh, no time before work to read all the comments, but i'll echo some, and possibly even say something original. (and apologies if they sound cranky, i'm pre-caffeinated :) )

*tags should be separate from mood/music/location

*tags underneath the entry box itself

*"pick a mood and then find a picture that is approximately relevant"

*the post button is so far away. would prefer not to have to scroll that far when most of the time i skip the intermediate steps.

*also getting the flash when going RTE-->HTML

*"take out of normal flow" sounds ... odd? the LJ "post out of order" makes more sense. or "post at a different time"?

*i like the suggestion of being able to move the boxen around

*will crosspost be default enabled?

*i feel like the age restriction should be its own box, separate from the formatting options (don't logically go together).

*keyboard-scrolling through the icon drop-down doesn't change the icon that's displayed -- oh wait, yes it does. but only after i click the mouse outside of the drop-down. same for mood-theme.
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[personal profile] kath_ballantyne 2010-05-27 11:20 am (UTC)(link)
I'm loving most of it.
I'm not sure if this is an issue with the page or the way my computer is set up but I have my resolution at either 1024x768 OR 800X600
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[personal profile] kath_ballantyne 2010-05-27 11:23 am (UTC)(link)
I'm loving most of it.
I'm not sure if this is an issue with the page or the way my computer is set up but when I'm tabbing through the options and it gets to the point where it has to scroll down to stuff that's not visible on the first screen it flashes red across the screen. As in each time I press tab it flashes and it's the sort of thing to cause a migraine.
I have my resolution at either 1024x768 OR 800x600 but I usually have my firefox window zoomed in depending on how bad my eyes are that day.

Congrats on the wedding though.
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[personal profile] fu 2010-05-27 02:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Hmmm. One idea: if you click on the "disable animation" link in the upper right hand corner, does that help any?

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[personal profile] pantswarrior 2010-05-27 11:29 am (UTC)(link)
d). Temporarily "unpublish" entries back to draft status, instead of deleting them or setting them to Private, so that if you want to revise an entry after you post it, you can do so and still keep the same URL and privacy settings when the entry is republished.

I have not even looked yet, but unless the update page is neon green with bright red font, I say YES.

*looks* Seriously looks amazing. Only thing that I might be tempted to change off the top of my head is to make it more clear that the WIP portion is actually two columns, one for drafts and one for scheduled posts. Either a little dividing line between, or two headers rather than just bold text. (Unless there are supposed to be headers there, and it's an issue with my browser.) Or something else I haven't thought of, but everything else seemed quite intuitive aside from that. While I don't mind actually reading the page for longer than three seconds, apparently some people do. ;)
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[personal profile] sorchasilver 2010-05-27 11:33 am (UTC)(link)
I really want to see this in my usual site scheme (Celerity) so I can tell how much of the visual discomfort I am having is down to the site scheme and how much is down to the layout of the new page. Please make the option to view in different site schemes something we can see sooner rather than later!

I'm not terribly comfortable with the 2 column layout, but if there really is no option then please could we have the choice to switch the sidebar column to the other side? At present the right column overwhelms the rest of the page (this may be possibly partly due to the prevalence of pink over there, and it might be less annoying in a different site scheme, but I can't tell at present).

The text entry area definitely feels too narrow now, though, which makes me less inclined to post directly from the site. This is the most important part of the page to me, and I feel like it's getting lost in all the bells-and-whistles.

I am unlikely ever to use the Date and Time or the Works in Progress sections, and would much prefer it if they too could be collapsed so they don't take up screen space unnecessarily.

Tags makes NO SENSE in the current location! That would bug me every single time I posted. They are much better at the bottom of the page under the Entry field as at present.

Having the "Post Entry" button located at the very bottom, below fields I will never use, is likely to be frustrating. I am going to have to scroll down further than necessary to post every single time. Couldn't this be located nearer the Entry field?

"Currents" is confusing and somewhat strange heading for the metadata!

Also, Tags really do not belong in "Currents". They are not the same sort of metadata as mood/music/location, and having them there is weird.

The magnifying glass icon represents search to me, not expand. It took me ages to figure out why it was there! Not intuitive at all.

I don't get what "take out of normal date flow" is trying to say at all. Is this just equivalent to "date out of order" - or is it trying to convey something more? It's confusing.

Having Preview and Spell-check tucked away over there is awkward and unhelpful - they need to be near the Entry field, please? And no, it's not about whether the box is expanded or not, it's about the way you've put them in a sidebar out of the way when they are vital parts of the work-flow of making a post. The rest of the things in the side-bar boxes are things I should only need to set once per post - but I need Spell-check and Preview more than that.

I'm unlikely to use draft posting, but I tried it out anyway and the work-flow for it seems counter-intuitive - having to set the drop-down menu etc. Couldn't there just be a "Save as Draft" button alongside the "Post Entry" button?

Security options seem somewhat scattered - not sure I like having the security level, comment options and screening setting split so much, it makes it harder to double-check that your post is set up the way you want it (requires scrolling etc).

I'm not fond of the "publish" terminology at all, but if it is going to be in use is there a reason the button still says "post entry" rather than "publish entry"? (Since you seem to be using "post" for the actual entries and "publish" for the user's action in making the post. Or am I missing something here?)
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[personal profile] lone_lilly 2010-05-27 11:42 am (UTC)(link)
Just wanted to say I love it! The WIP bin is pretty exciting too. :)
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[personal profile] boobookittifukk 2010-05-27 11:42 am (UTC)(link)
The demo update page looks FANTASTIC. I can't wait to try it out for real!
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[personal profile] falena 2010-05-27 11:51 am (UTC)(link)
It looks awesome! I did have a few quibbles but they have already been pointed out repeatedly.
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[personal profile] angelac 2010-05-27 11:56 am (UTC)(link)
I love it! Everything seems to work fine for me. I'm using firefox 3.0.5 for windows.
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[personal profile] auroraprimavera 2010-05-27 11:59 am (UTC)(link)
I LOVE THIS

JUST - When I have more time and feel more coherent, I'll fiddle some more. But the little I did do? LOOOOVEEEIIIIITTT ♥
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[personal profile] el_staplador 2010-05-27 12:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Congratulations to the pair of you!
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[personal profile] busaikko 2010-05-27 12:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Congratulations! *throws confetti*

Comments: In general, I agree about the tags being something I use all the time, and currents never.

On Chrome 4.1.249.1064, the text area box can be dragged far to the right but becomes invisible behind the column on the right. Chrome only lets text areas be stretched down and to the right; it can't go left, so sadly that leaves a lot of unusable space.

When selecting from the tags, I ended up with "ca" as well as "cake: thing". Could not figure out how to stop that.

On my cell phone... weirdly, most of Dreamwidth is no longer visible via Japanese cell phone EZWeb: it's unsupported for some reason (a very recent change!).

On iTouch (screen horizontal)... everything seems to work fairly well. Same problem with tags ("ca"); as well, on the tiny screen, the tags drop-down menu falls behind the keyboard, so scrolling is difficult (works somewhat better with vertical screen). Trying to X out a tag causes the keyboard to pop up.

All in all, it is pretty, and being able to collapse the things I'm not using is fun!
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[personal profile] ellia 2010-05-27 12:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Congratulations on your marriage.

I love almost everything about the new layout. The prominent box for icons is wonderful, i've lost count of how many times i've had to edit a post because i forgot to choose an icon.

The two column layout looks great to me, and i like having the entry text on the left, though i'd like that box to be a bit bigger.

Like a lot of other people i'd prefer to have tags taken out of currents, as i use tags for every post, and don't always bother with music/location. It would seem more intuitive to have the tag box directly under the entry text.

I'm also having the problem where if you type c in the tag box and then click on cake, you get two tags, c and cake, but i presume that's a bug. I love the fact that i can use the x to remove incorrect tags, instead of having to delete manually.

Being able to save posts and have a posting schedule is all kinds of wonderful, you've done an amazing job with this.
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[personal profile] green_knight 2010-05-27 10:32 pm (UTC)(link)
i've lost count of how many times i've had to edit a post because i forgot to choose an icon.

What I want is for an icon selector to be added to the 'change tags' page for that precise reason - I might forget to set an icon or change my mind; and it would make for much quicker icon selection.

[personal profile] desh 2010-05-27 12:22 pm (UTC)(link)
It looks great! And, I know y'all don't care too much, but I can't find any differences in how it works or looks between Firefox 3.5.9 and Opera 10.53, so that's a plus.

My one suggestion is that picking the date options (displayed entry time and scheduled posting time) shouldn't immediately pop up the calendar. Ideally it would open up the boxes to type in a date/time, with a link (an icon of a calendar or something) that you can click to pop up the calendar.

Also, it's not at all clear to me how to make a recurring post stop recurring after some number of postings...will that be from this interface, or will there be some other interface for it?
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[personal profile] sophie 2010-05-27 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Although I don't know for sure, I would assume that to stop a scheduled post from reoccurring you would click on the post name in the "Scheduled Posts" section, which I guess would then take you to a page to edit the post, at which point you would turn the reoccurring feature off.

Of course, I don't know for sure as the demo doesn't do that and I'm not [personal profile] fu, but that's how I would imagine it would work.
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[personal profile] pennyplainknits 2010-05-27 12:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I just had a look on my droid phone and some of the boxes overlap slightly. Not enough to be unusable, just fiddly. I love that you can schedule posts, but I found the 'date flow' bit confusing and its not that clear that drafts and scheduled posts are different.

I think the preview/spell check buttons not being next to post is a bit counter intuitive. Ditto the tags being lumped under 'currents'. I hadn't heard the term before and it took a while to work out what it meant.

I couldn't actually post my post. Was I supposed to be able too?

That said, it does collapse nicely on my screen!

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[personal profile] were_duck 2010-05-27 12:26 pm (UTC)(link)
This is so exciting! Multiple drafts!! I love you guys!! I have nothing useful to contribute at this time, everything seems to be working smoothly for my browser.
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[personal profile] zillah975 2010-05-27 12:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Woot!

Note: I'm using Google Chrome v4.1 on Windows Vista.

First impressions (note that I've read none of the 345 comments here so far):

The good:
* Looks splendid!
* When I shrink my browser until it's too narrow for both the options and update text field, the options drop below the update text field into a two-column layout and my update field widens to fill the space they left. This is hugely better (to me) than making me scroll left to right. Yay tableless layouts!
* The options are much easier to spot, with their little red boxes
* I like the notches in the options sidebars. They're a great visual key that these are options fields, not random sidebar info boxes or something. Also, I just like the way they look. They break up the boxiness without being distracting, and make the expand arrows easier to spot.
* The Publishing, Date & Time, and Works In Progress fields work well, I think. I particularly like that they're below the "Post" button.

The questionable:
* Will there be more "recurring post" options? Ie: to post on M,W,F, or to post twice a month, anything like that?
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[personal profile] sophie 2010-05-27 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree that it would be nice to have more options for the recurring post options! Though if worst came to worst you could do both of those examples by creating three or two separate recurring posts respectively containing the same content.

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