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Denise ([staff profile] denise) wrote in [site community profile] dw_news2023-01-15 01:39 pm

Upcoming anti-spam changes: confirm your emails now to avoid problems later!

We've been stepping up our spam detection and enforcement[1] recently, as spammers continue to use Dreamwidth for a bunch of unsolicited advertising garbage and search engine backlink spam. Part of our upcoming planned changes to make the site more unfriendly to spammers will involve reducing the number of things you can do on the site before you've confirmed your email address, as well as limiting the visibility of profiles and accounts whose email addresses are unconfirmed.

We know a lot of our users have multiple accounts, and that roleplayers in particular have a bunch of accounts they either aren't using yet, or were using at one point and have retired, temporarily or permanently. To make sure that legitimate accounts don't get inconvenienced by our planned future restrictions on accounts with unconfirmed email addresses, please take a few moments now and check all your accounts to make sure the email addresses listed on them are your current email address, and that you've confirmed your email address on each account.

To learn about confirming your email address, see "How do I confirm my email address?" To check that your email address has been confirmed, log in to the account and go to Confirm Email. (This is also where you can send a new confirmation email if you need to confirm your email address.) To change your email address if it's out of date, log in to the account and go to Change Email Address. Finally, if you have multiple accounts and may have lost track of or forgotten one, go to Lost Information and enter your email address under "Have you lost your account name?" -- the site will email you a list of all your usernames.

If you have a little bit of extra time, please check the username list for every email address you may have ever used on the site. We often run into problems where people change which email address they're primarily using, update some but not all of their accounts to use the new email address, and then lose access to the old email address later on. If that happens, we are very limited in the number of ways we can help you recover access to the account if you forget the password or someone breaks into your account, and people in that situation often lose access to the account entirely and can't get it back. It bums us out when we can't help you get your account back, so spending a few minutes now to do some digital housekeeping can help you and us to lower the chances you'll lose account access.

Please share this post with your friends, especially friends who haven't visited Dreamwidth for a while! It's hard for us to contact people who have outdated email addresses, and we really hate it when people come back after a few years away and discover that they can't get into their accounts any more because they've lost access to their email address. We want to keep your account around for as long as we're here, and we want to make sure as many of you as possible who take a break can still get into your accounts when you come back, whether you've been gone for six months or six years!

We'd also like to thank everyone who helps us out by reporting spam they see on DW! There are a few different types of spam that we tend to get, and each one has a different way to report it to us:

If you get a spam comment: Delete the comment, and choose "mark as spam" when you do. This puts the comment into our comment spam wrangling system, where our antispam volunteers will take actions to make it harder for that person to spam in the future (if it's anonymous spam) or refer the account to us for suspension (if it's a logged-in spam account).

If you see a spam entry, such as on Latest Things or using the site search: Open a support request in the "Anti-Spam" category and include a link to the spam entry or the spammer's journal. We'll take it from there.

If you get a spam entry to your community and you're the community admin: Delete the entry, and choose "mark as spam" when you do. This puts the entry into our spam wrangling system, and our antispam volunteers will handle it. If you're not the community admin, but you see a spam entry and the admin hasn't handled it yet, open a support request in the "Anti-Spam" category and include a link to the spam entry or the spammer's journal. Again, we'll take it from there.

If you get a spam entry to your moderated community's moderation queue, and you're an admin or moderator of the community: Choose "reject as spam" to remove the entry from the moderation queue. That will put the entry into our spam wrangling system, and our antispam volunteers will handle it.

If you see a spam profile, such as when accounts add a bunch of people to their reading list and their journal is empty but their bio is clearly spam, or you're browsing Directory Search or Interests and click on a profile that's clearly spam, open a support request in the "Anti-Spam" category and include a link to the spammer's profile. We'll take it from there.

(If you see spam entries or spam profiles from accounts that were created within the last day or so, chances are pretty good that our detection systems will catch them; don't feel too bad if you don't have time to report those. We're still chewing through the backlog of accounts that were created before our updated detection systems, though, and sometimes spammers create accounts and let them sit dormant for a while to avoid detection, so please do report anything older than a day or two!)

[1] We use a number of flexible definitions of spam, but a good rule of thumb is we consider spam to be "accounts that are here primarily to get their off-DW content in front of the eyeballs of people who didn't go looking for it, not here to participate on the site". This includes accounts that are trying to get their off-DW content to rank higher in search engine results by increasing the number of outside links that the search engine sees for their website. It does not include something like regular DW users posting about their projects, like an author linking to their books, an artist making a community for their webcomic updates, someone who makes jewelry linking to their Etsy shop, an adult performer linking to their OnlyFans account, etc. Genuine DW users should feel 100% comfortable linking to their presence elsewhere on the internet, even things that are commercial in nature and even in separate accounts or communities so it isn't part of your main account, and if we get that wrong, please do yell at us about it: no spam detection is perfect, because spammers are endlessly inventive. What we're looking to get rid of are the inauthentic accounts created by people who have no interest in DW itself, just looking for yet another place they can put their "search engine optimization" content or "backlink generation" content: every site that allows user-generated content accrues that kind of garbage, and we're really trying to crack down on it because it wastes everyone's time and resources.

(Comment notification emails may be delayed for an hour or two, due to the high volume of emails generated by a [site community profile] dw_news post. This was posted at 1:40 PM EST/1840 UTC (see in your time zone). Please don't worry about delayed notification emails until at least two hours after that. You may receive multiple copies of this email notification due to a known issue with sending out that huge numbers of emails: we apologize, and we're still working to fix that problem.)
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[personal profile] makamu 2023-01-15 06:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks for being on the case, Denise! One question: do we need to do anything if our email has already been confirmed and has not changed recently?
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[personal profile] technoshaman 2023-01-15 07:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Go hit that link she pointed at (Confirm Email) anyway, just to be sure, but when I did it, it said I'd already been confirmed... long since, I imagine, since I don't remember doing it and I've been here since Beta Day One, which is a Long Time in computer contexts...
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[personal profile] makamu 2023-01-15 07:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I did that and got back the same message you did (I've been around DW since 2009, too)
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[personal profile] makamu 2023-01-18 05:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, I'll keep it in mind for when I change my email then and report any spam I find or get. PSA: Dreamwidth is awesome!
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[personal profile] paserbyp 2023-01-15 07:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Good job! Thank you!
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[personal profile] paserbyp 2023-01-15 08:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Try to do my best to help and just let me know if can help you more?
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[personal profile] paserbyp 2023-01-15 09:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Will continue to monitor it and will prepare some business ideas how to make money for DW. Sounds good?
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[personal profile] paserbyp 2023-01-17 06:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you very much for a very clear and detailed info about commonly-proposed ideas. I don’t want to bother you with something which will not provide for DW a good ROI and moreover will lead in wrong direction. First, I want have estimation about investment and resources for design, develop and deploy any ideas. Second, I want have estimate how long and how big ROI will be. Indeed, estimation could be wrong and art of estimation always is challenging, but these two steps I want make first, before decision to go with any idea will be made.
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[personal profile] wookiemonster 2023-01-15 07:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Just wanted to say that in the near-decade I've been using Dreamwidth, I've never had a problem with spam. Thanks!
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[personal profile] technoshaman 2023-01-15 07:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Same. Just doesn't happen around here. Thanks, people!
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[personal profile] havocthecat 2023-01-15 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I...I want to see the pattern so I know, actually? (Partly because I have a good pattern-recognition brain and partly because, well, I like to know things.)
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[personal profile] havocthecat 2023-01-17 06:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I would be on that if at all possible. Because it would be super useful - I know sometimes the weirdass phishing training at work I'm able to squint and see, but these are slightly different.

But social media is a different type of spam than anything else. And really, I want to know what to report if I'm on network instead of second-guessing.
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[personal profile] sauronnaise 2023-01-18 12:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Agreed. Tumblr is currently at war with porn bots and we've all become experts at recognising, reporting and blocking them, but DW spam sounds sophisticated enough that it would fly under my radar.
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[personal profile] havocthecat 2023-01-18 02:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, those are easy mode! They're empty accounts and random "sexy lady" photos that purport to be real. Or those posts that show up on the actor tags that you follow that are different sexy ladies with a shortlink and those are super, super obvious spambots. (Like, look, pornbots, I know all the sexy actresses I follow on Plecverse look like, and you are not those sexy actresses.)

But then there are other accounts that aren't empty but you squint and you're like, "Okay you're either an anarchist with no other purpose in life than to undermine the establishment or you're a bot? I can't tell?" Or also, "Either someone is super into memes and shitposting or a bot? I also can't tell?" I tend to block those under an abundance of caution, but not report them, but I'm lately getting to the point where I might start reporting them out of an overabundance of caution, but I'm not there yet.
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[personal profile] havocthecat 2023-01-18 08:49 pm (UTC)(link)
That's useful information to have, and Tumblr seems to be interested in that sort of thing too? At least, they've been helpful when I've blocked the pornbots on the tags I follow.
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[personal profile] sauronnaise 2023-01-18 10:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Tumblr bots are getting smarter as we speak and started to have completely empty profiles. Their url follow the name-number format, but it's only a matter of time before urls become to only names/words/letters. If they start adding content to their blogs, we're doomed.
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[personal profile] havocthecat 2023-01-18 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I've gotten names only, not just the name/number format. One even claimed to be a cosplayer.

[personal profile] adriensawriter11 2023-01-20 09:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Damn, Something shitty happened to me a while back while we were doing online class. True Story: Someone joined our class on zoom, and impersonated me. Both of "me" were kicked out, and later I found out that I was accused of playing pornographic sounds. Why tf would I do that? I didn't do it (obviously), but now I can say firsthand that I have had to deal with Identity Theft. And I highly doubt it was a bot. It had to be someone in my class that had beef with me. Hmmmm... *thinks*
Edited (Added Information) 2023-01-20 21:48 (UTC)
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[personal profile] sauronnaise 2023-01-18 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Is there anybody on DW we can contact (besides you, I presume) in case we're unsure about a blog/profile? I wouldn't want to report an account thinking it's a bot when there's a real person behind.

"I know this is spam, the further confirmatory investigation proved that I'm right this is spam, but I have absolutely no idea what I saw in this profile that made my hindbrain convinced that this is spam".
The beauty of the brain making connections faster than conscious thoughts :D
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[personal profile] sauronnaise 2023-01-19 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
Perfect, thank you!

[personal profile] adriensawriter11 2023-01-20 01:57 am (UTC)(link)
I don't use tumblr, but what you said about "war with porn bots" made me shudder a bit. Technology has become way too advanced if there are fucking porn bots. So yes, I agree with all of the security measures being taken to make sure that the actual DW users have a good time.
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[personal profile] torachan 2023-01-16 07:31 am (UTC)(link)
It's ramped up recently. I don't think I ever received more than one or two spam comments in all the years I used DW but in the last few months I've had several.
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[personal profile] torachan 2023-01-18 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, even though the amount of spam I have gotten on here is way lower compared to like Word Press or something, it was very noticeable because there had been basically zero spam for so long. Now suddenly I'll get random accounts commenting with spammy links here and there. Thank you for working on it!
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[personal profile] spiralsheep 2023-01-15 07:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I came back to dw a few months ago, after five years away, to change my email address and protect my account. Thank you for still being here.
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[personal profile] montuos 2023-01-16 05:17 am (UTC)(link)

<3 Thank you inexpressibly for that!

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[personal profile] montuos 2023-01-17 07:30 pm (UTC)(link)

I'm glad you picked up that the trait I'm appreciating most is being cranky old bastards just like me. :)

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[personal profile] violetsugar 2023-01-16 06:38 am (UTC)(link)
So grateful you all are here and plan to be for as long as possible. ❤️
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[personal profile] havocthecat 2023-01-18 09:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I was literally just writing up a comment on "so, do y'all have a succession plan in place, as a governance person, I kind of think of these things, don't take this as anything but that..."
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[personal profile] violetsugar 2023-01-19 03:28 pm (UTC)(link)
For which we are all extremely grateful! ❤️ Good luck with luring them in. I hope the the idea of running their own online home appeals to them down the road.
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[personal profile] fyreharper 2023-01-18 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
There’s no place like home, there’s no place like home…
:clicks heels together and lands in my DW reading page:
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[personal profile] ex_flameandsong751 2023-01-15 07:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you for all your hard work!
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[personal profile] ride_4ever 2023-01-15 07:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you kindly for this diligence and for the very existence of Dreamwidth!

(And I'll be sharing this post with other DW users.)
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[personal profile] commoncomitatus 2023-01-15 07:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks for the detailed, informative post, and for all your hard work! <3
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[personal profile] pangolin20 2023-01-15 07:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks for putting in this work!
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[personal profile] dewline 2023-01-15 08:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Appreciating the heads-up on this!
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[personal profile] ai 2023-01-15 08:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks for the heads up and of course all the work you guys put into eliminating spam. It's certainly not fun, but I know I appreciate it ♥ I rarely ever encounter spam on Dreamwidth and I know it's because there's hardworking individuals cleaning it all up.
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[personal profile] necrophilia 2023-01-15 08:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you for all your work in spam prevention!
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[personal profile] shirebound 2023-01-15 09:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you for your continued clear communication on every issue!
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[personal profile] lb_lee 2023-01-15 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I really appreciate how little spam I encounter on this site. On tumblr, I feel like half that accounts that followed me were "real live girls in your neighborhood." Here, I usually only run into a spammer after they've been banned!
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[personal profile] ravengown 2023-01-16 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
Hello!

I noticed that some account names on my list are listed as ex_[word]_###, does this mean those accounts are deactivated or renamed?

I have another question! I remembered rather forcibly that I had another very very old Dreamwidth account, and I could have sworn that I knew the email address associated, but it seems like it was never confirmed, or something? Is there any way to confirm this or am I out of luck? There is barely anything on it, there was just one entry from the site's early days. I'm surprised it's still up. Solved this mystery.

Another question, forgive me, but is there an approximate ETA on when these changes will happen? I am in fact, one of those RPers with many, many accounts over the years, and while I'm going through them, I need to know how much I can pace myself...
Edited 2023-01-16 22:13 (UTC)
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[personal profile] ravengown 2023-01-17 06:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, so those ex accounts can actually be logged into and aren't just the leftovers? Sorry, something in that explanation actually left me more confused.

Thank you for the other two answers. With the old account I know it's not recoverable. With the timeline, I just wanted to know how crazy I should be going with this spreadsheeting because it's making DW hard to look at.
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[personal profile] ravengown 2023-01-17 08:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Awesome, thank you! I actually moved a lot to a different address at one point but I'll work that out in a ticket. I have kept.. every single welcome email I have gotten from DW (which helps with all of those pesky +foos!) and it's actually been helping a lot, after spreadsheeting it all out.
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[personal profile] dreadlordmrson 2023-01-16 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you for the work you do protecting and cleaning up Dreamwidth. :3

The confirm email link said I'm already confirmed, and I don't have any extra accounts here (yet). So I'm good.
*thumbs up*

[personal profile] jazzyjj 2023-01-17 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
Same here. I've actually had some more me time this evening, and thought I'd revisit this entry and try and confirm my email addy. But I, too, got the "already confirmed" message so we're all good. Thanks as always Dw for your down-to-Earth communication style. It's very much appreciated.
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[personal profile] morrow 2023-01-16 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
I didn’t know we should report spam! I’ve just been ignoring it to avoid giving them engagement… oops!! Sorry! Will report in future :)
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[personal profile] sixbeforelunch 2023-01-16 03:16 am (UTC)(link)

Genuine DW users should feel 100% comfortable linking to their presence elsewhere on the internet

You man you don't subscribe to the Elon Musk "how dare you use my website to direct people elsewhere?" school of social media management?

Seriously, though, thanks for the heads up and for keeping DW a tiny light of sanity on an increasingly terrifying internet. ♥

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[personal profile] strongheartmaid 2023-01-16 04:52 am (UTC)(link)
Apropos of nothing, but much icon love for the Fourth Doctor
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[personal profile] sixbeforelunch 2023-01-16 05:34 pm (UTC)(link)

:D

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[personal profile] dustbunny105 2023-01-16 06:00 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you for the work you do and for your dedication to clearly communicating with us!
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[personal profile] harpers_child 2023-01-16 06:08 am (UTC)(link)
Weeks like the last few where I'm playing whack-a-mole with spam accounts on two other social media platforms make me extra thankful for DW's anti-spam efforts. Thanks and keep up the hard work.
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[personal profile] tanya_salpe 2023-01-16 07:23 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you for your work! ❤
Email has already been confirmed. I have multiple accounts, because 500.0 MB quota not enough for my images ☹ Sorry
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[personal profile] pauamma 2023-01-16 07:33 am (UTC)(link)
Is this also something needed for communities we're adminning?
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[personal profile] cpthorn 2023-01-16 12:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you for your work! It's very important to get rid of those pesky spam accounts in DW.
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[personal profile] rainsometimes 2023-01-16 01:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Question: do you guys have a Plurk account, and if so do you have a post about this over there?
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[personal profile] ravengown 2023-01-16 01:36 pm (UTC)(link)
There is an unofficial mirror of the Twitter account here: [plurk.com profile] dreamwidth, but it's not been updated in a few months.

I did see a casual post about it on Plurk, though.
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[personal profile] rainsometimes 2023-01-18 09:04 am (UTC)(link)
That's great - I would like to replurk it. Do you have the link?
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[personal profile] ravengown 2023-01-21 03:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry, I got consumed by life. I think this might be too old to be useful now because of how replurking works, but here.
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[personal profile] rainsometimes 2023-01-23 04:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you!
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[personal profile] rainsometimes 2023-01-18 09:04 am (UTC)(link)
Good to know! Thank you!
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[personal profile] erinm_4600 2023-01-16 02:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I haven't experienced any spam on DW.. but I also don't hang out in any of the cool places. Thank you for a refresh of the how to report-links, in case I see some!
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[personal profile] meinterrupted 2023-01-17 02:30 am (UTC)(link)
I actually just saw my first spam comment on DW, and it looks like it came from a real user whose account had been hacked, because I actually recognized the username from fandom. I reported it, and hopefully they can get their account back at some point.

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