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Denise ([staff profile] denise) wrote in [site community profile] dw_news2015-01-18 10:00 pm

Dreamwidth News: 18 January 2015

Hello, Dreamwidth! Greetings from glorious Auckland, NZ, where we've been for this year's (It was a great conference! But then, it always is.) We decided to sneak in a code push while we were here, since we were in the same place and code pushes are always more fun when you can yell across the room when something breaks.

Behind the cut:

* Development
* Responsive-design conversion
* Reading page: custom colors for accounts going away
* Quicker Reply: reply from your reading page
* Warnings when you don't keyword an icon
* The country list
* SSL Everywhere


In addition to the things I'm about to talk about, the code tour for all the changes in this push is here:

Code Tour, 11 Aug 2014-17 Jan 2015

A particular welcome to new contributor [ profile] emhoracek, and congrats to [personal profile] azurelunatic's first code contribution.

Responsive-design conversion

I first started talking about our responsive design converstion a while back. We're continuing on with our conversion of various pages on the site to use the new responsive framework, and this time around (in addition to pages that are visited less often or pages that are part of something else), we have converted the beta Create Entries page. There should be no functional change, but some minor visual ones.

We've also converted multiple small pages (such as the admin pages and a lot of tool pages and misc endpoints).

Finally, we've taken the page to join/unjoin communities and the page to subscribe to people or to grant them access and squished them together, with different things displayed depending on what you're trying to do with it. This page, too, has also been converted to our new responsive design.

You can report problems with any of these pages in the new sticky entry in [site community profile] dw_beta.

Reading page: custom colors for accounts going away

You may notice that as part of the previous change, from now on when you're adding people to your circle, you can no longer specify custom colors for them on your reading page. We ran some stats and discovered that fewer than .8% of subscriptions use custom colors. With such a small percentage of people using the feature, we're going to be removing it: it's not worth the work it will take for us to convert it.

If you are using custom colors: please copy down the information now! You will still be able to set and view the custom colors for a little while, but once we finish transitioning away from the feature, you won't be able to set or view them anymore. For now, you can still set or change custom colors by going to the Manage Circle page.

Before we remove the feature entirely, we'll give you instructions on how to achieve the same effect on your reading page using custom CSS.

Quicker Reply: reply from your reading page

The feature that let you reply to a comment without having to load a separate page to get the reply form, added to LJ lo these many moons ago, was called QuickReply. We've added QuickerReply: the ability to reply to an entry from your reading page without having to leave your reading page.

To take advantage, use the 'Reply' link on your reading page: it will display a reply form right there on your reading page. (If you still want to read other comments before adding yours, use the "# comments" link, not the Reply link.)

Warnings when you don't keyword an icon

As many people have noticed: if you upload an icon without adding a keyword, the icon is assigned a "pic###" automatic keyword. The bad news is, those automatic keywords are not 'real' keywords, and they can result in all kinds of errors and all kinds of weird problems.

So, from now on, if you have an icon that was given the "pic###" default automatic keywords, the Edit Icons page will warn you that those icons may behave oddly in all kinds of places, and you should give them keywords.

The country list

Many people have noticed that the list of countries available for selection on the profile was very out of date. (I believe it was the list from LiveJournal's inception in 1998 with a little bit of tweaking here and there since.) We've discussed how to update that list multiple times: the question of "what counts as a country" is very difficult (and often very political).

It's gotten more and more urgent lately, though, since it's been so long since we've updated the list. We've decided that we're going to outsource our checks -- and our decision of "what counts as a country" -- to somebody else: starting with this code push, we're using the Perl module Locale::Codes::Country. This means that the hard questions are somebody else's!

If you notice that there's a country missing from the list, let us know and we'll look into it.

SSL Everywhere

We've had multiple people asking us why it's not possible to browse the entire site in SSL. The answer is very convoluted, but it involves the fact that user-generated content loading data from all over the internet is very, very hard to serve via SSL without problems. (If you serve secure and non-secure content on the same page, browsers complain a lot, and sometimes refuse to load at all.)

[staff profile] mark and [personal profile] fu have been working really hard to fix a lot of those questions, though. We have a lot of code in this release to make it possible for you to browse the site via HTTPS. We're not turning it on as a default everywhere yet, because there are inevitably a ton of bugs, but you can now manually request things from and get it that way. (In fact, please do; it will help with testing.)

Once we're satisfied that it works, we'll be releasing it more widely to everyone.


That's it from us for another update! As always, if you're having problems with Dreamwidth, Support can help you; for notices of site problems and downtime, check the Twitter status page; if you've got an idea to make the site better, you can make a suggestion. (I'm a lot behind on the suggestions queue, though, just as a warning.)

Comment notifications may be delayed for up to an hour or two, due to the high volume of notifications generated after an update is posted to [site community profile] dw_news. This was posted just after 2200 New Zealand time, 18 Jan. (see in your time zone). Please don't worry about missing notifications until at least two hours after that.
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[staff profile] mark 2015-01-18 09:04 am (UTC)(link)
I asked [ profile] daveman692 for QuickerReply like 20 times and every time he was like "no, it's hard".

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[personal profile] aeroga 2015-01-18 09:17 am (UTC)(link)
So with today's new updates, I've stopped receving email notifications for replies to any of my accounts.

I use a hotmail email and am not sure if that's relevant, but I haven't had trouble with getting notifs before unless it was a widespread issue. That being the case, I wanted to make a note of it here and see if it's happening to anybody else, or if there's anything I can do about it at the moment.
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[personal profile] bertall 2015-01-18 09:19 am (UTC)(link)
With this recent push it looks like the icon picker has blown up a little? Was this intended or is it just a tiny bug? Here is how it used to look, but now it's gotten kind of weird after the push. I even tried a journal with everything keyworded and it looks pretty skewed on my end.
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[personal profile] green_knight 2015-01-18 09:20 am (UTC)(link)
Custom Colours: Noooooo!

It's an accessibility feature for me: if I'm pressed for time, I can make easy decisions which things I need to read, and which I can easily skip; also which people (custom colours) I must read at all costs. There were times when I've relied on this *a lot* (travelling with small screens and bad internet access).

(And I think it's a vicious circle - few people use it because the DW support in themes isn't very good; I think you should do more for it, not dump it completely.)

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[personal profile] discodiva76 2015-01-18 09:20 am (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry I don't like the quick do I get rid of it and go back to the normal way of posting please?

OK it..missed the bit on the news page...hopefully I'll get used to it ...I just don't like change...:(

Deeds xx
Edited 2015-01-18 09:22 (UTC)
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[personal profile] yabamena 2015-01-18 09:23 am (UTC)(link)
Are the little dinky arrows bookending the tags on posts now intentional? If so, why? Because I don't understand. They don't look good and on posts with several tags, the arrow clutter actually makes it very difficult for me to read them.
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[personal profile] discodiva76 2015-01-18 09:25 am (UTC)(link)
OK..another query...

If there are NO comments before you reply to a HAVE to use Quick Reply??...because there are no comments before to read...:(

Sorry if this is a nuisance but I hate technological changes - which is why I came over to DW from LJ because of all the "messing around".....

I hope DW won't be implementing too much new stuff as I really prefer the way it's been running since its inception....

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[personal profile] basilmemories 2015-01-18 09:55 am (UTC)(link)
Well crap, the main rp tracking comm I have uses colors extensively for easy reading and clarity of where the posts are coming from. How difficult will it be to implement in css, namely this style? I've already got some basic css modification going on there, and I'm just hoping it doesn't conflict with the new changes/css workaround.
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[personal profile] finch 2015-01-18 09:57 am (UTC)(link)
Quicker Reply makes me ridiculously happy. No more needing to open fourteen tabs on my phone!
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[personal profile] hustru 2015-01-18 09:58 am (UTC)(link)
Just wanted to throw in a voice from someone who likes the function of the arrows a lot, though they do clutter up the tags section a bit, expecially in entries with a lot of tags (like RP posts/logs with many participants). But the idea of it is a really neat thing imo.

Will quick reply ever be available for comms too, or will it stay limited to the reading pages?
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[personal profile] rootsofthestories 2015-01-18 10:02 am (UTC)(link)
*draws hearts all over this update*
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[personal profile] mitbix 2015-01-18 10:41 am (UTC)(link)
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[personal profile] ratcreature 2015-01-18 10:42 am (UTC)(link)
I have a question about the tag arrows: If my posts with a tag have different access levels, say some are access looked, some public, some for custom groups, will people browsing by the arrows see an error i.e. "you don't have access to that post" or will they go to the next post they are allowed to see as if they were browsing by the tag view?
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Quicker reply

[personal profile] shinsetsu 2015-01-18 11:01 am (UTC)(link)
OoOoOoooh! Quicker Reply is awesome! :)
Edited 2015-01-18 11:04 (UTC)
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[personal profile] schematise 2015-01-18 11:02 am (UTC)(link)
I personally like the tag arrows but I'm also running on a wide-screen laptop with a wide-screen style so all the widths of posts are bigger, and thus the clutter is less cluttered to me. I can see loading from a smaller resolution or from a mobile device it'd probably end up a pain because it increases the number of things above a post by like 2/3. So i mulled this over on 4 hours of sleep and a partial fix from a clutter point of view (yet not readability for people who have problems parsing the business of arrows between tags) might be to only automatically load, say 10? tags? and then hide the rest under a 'more' option that dumps them out when you click it? to clean up the page

Readability I dunno, maybe make the arrows a different colour or size to the actual tags
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[personal profile] asfreeasleaves 2015-01-18 11:22 am (UTC)(link)
OH oh! The new quicker reply! So snazzy. A feature I wanted. Thank you so much for implementing it.
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[personal profile] benedict 2015-01-18 11:41 am (UTC)(link)
I like the new quick reply, and deep in my heart I wish I could just put in a made up country instead of having to use a real one if I put that in my profile. But I assume there's a reason for real countries and Will Live.
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[personal profile] roga 2015-01-18 11:52 am (UTC)(link)
I was just wishing yesterday for a way to reply from my rlist instead of in a new tab and now this! Yay :-)
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[personal profile] tyger 2015-01-18 11:54 am (UTC)(link)
Oh no, the sidebar's gone from my create entries page! *pokes it more* ...okay, my entires page window has to be SCARY wide for it to go back to two-column. I realise the masses of white space is a pretty widespread trend right now, and as such might be inevitable in the code upgrade, but is it possible to shrink it down a bit more? It's taking up like 75% of my screen right now, which is at least 15% more than I'd like.

Yes, yes, I know I'm an odd end of the bell curve case. But I really like the sidebar, so I figured I'd ask. <3

That being said, wheeee, awesome things! Quicker Reply and oh noes you forgot to keyword your icon will both be super super handy for me! :D And adding SSL is always a good idea, I think. Tag arrows, I don't much mind either way, personally, but I see the RPers point. Would it be too difficult to add a show/hide tag arrows toggle next to the tags list? (Say, just before the Tag: ) If it remembered which way it was set, that might be a good way of keeping the functionality but also not expanding super long for RPers etc. But IDK maybe that would be way too complex to code; whatever works!
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[personal profile] slowsouthernstyle 2015-01-18 12:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I just have two queries. Is there a way to make the general font smaller on the create entries page? Everything is very squashed up for me now, and the browse tags page for communities with longer tags is all squashed and hard to see what tick box goes with what tag. This seems like it would be a problem for anyone not using a wide-screen computer. This Arial font seems huge now for entries that might have a lot of text.

Also, will there be a way to move the drop down menu of where to post to to above or alongside the entry box? I, and many people I know (roleplayers), tend to choose the community we post to and the tags before making the entry so we don't accidentally post to the wrong place and tag correctly. And this is really a petty preference, but the Post button before choose the whether an entry is public and what journal to post to is confusing.
Edited 2015-01-18 12:58 (UTC)
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[personal profile] fuchsian 2015-01-18 12:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you for your great work as always!
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[personal profile] saratogaroad 2015-01-18 12:23 pm (UTC)(link)
So something seems to have happened to the Adult Concepts page? (see here) I tested that in both Chrome and Firefox, with all LJ/DW related extensions/tools/addons both enabled and disabled-then-hard-refreshed and it always came out the same. I think it may have something to do with the new login popup window thing, given that that button is also new but.../shrug? Apologies if this is in the wrong place.
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Tag arrows :) SSL :) delegation :)

[personal profile] brainwane 2015-01-18 01:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm enjoying the new way to navigate old archives via tag arrows! It used to be that if I wanted to see other entries that person had posted on that topic around the same time, I had to do a lot of mucking about with archives and keep track of dates. This will be a lot easier. Thank you for the new feature!

Right now I see that there are arrows in both directions even when there's, for instance, no next entry with that tag, so I click the pointing-right arrow and get a "There is no entry following this one. Go back to [user]" error. It would be cool if you did not show the arrow in that circumstance.

Yay SSL! I am looking forward to being able to browse and post to Dreamwidth more securely. I am having trouble with the new option and filed a GitHub issue.

And I love that there are now fewer open source projects in the world trying to provide their own answer to the "what is the canonical list of countries" headache. Yay delegation!
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[personal profile] munaks 2015-01-18 01:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I think something might have happened to the account creation system. I keep getting redirected to https://perlbal/create which registers as an error, instead of the set-up page.

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